Noam Chomsky Speaks to Occupy: If We Want a Chance at a Decent Future, the Movement Here and Around the World Must Grow
November 1, 2011 |
It's a little hard to give a Howard Zinn Memorial Lecture
at an Occupy meeting. There are mixed feelings that go along with it.
First of all, regret that Howard is not here to take part and invigorate
it in his particular way, something that would have been the dream of
his life, and secondly, excitement that the dream is actually being
fulfilled. It’s a dream for which he laid a lot of the groundwork. It
would have been the fulfillment of a dream for him to be here with you.
The
Occupy movement really is an exciting development. In fact, it's
spectacular. It's unprecedented; there's never been anything like it
that I can think of. If the bonds and associations that are being
established at these remarkable events can be sustained through a long,
hard period ahead -- because victories don't come quickly-- this could
turn out to be a very significant moment in American history.
The
fact that the demonstrations are unprecedented is quite appropriate. It
is an unprecedented era -- not just this moment -- but actually since
the 1970s. The 1970s began a major turning point in American history.
For centuries, since the country began, it had been a developing society
with ups and downs. But the general progress was toward wealth and
industrialization and development -- even in dark and hope -- there was a
pretty constant expectation that it's going to go on like this. That
was true even in very dark times.
I'm
just old enough to remember the Great Depression. After the first few
years, by the mid-1930s, although the situation was objectively much
harsher than it is today, the spirit was quite different. There was a
sense that we're going to get out of it, even among unemployed people.
It'll get better. There was a militant labor movement organizing, CIO
was organizing. It was getting to the point of sit-down strikes, which
are very frightening to the business world. You could see it in the
business press at the time. A sit-down strike was just a step before
taking over the factory and running it yourself. Also, the New Deal
legislations were beginning to come under popular pressure. There was
just a sense that somehow we're going to get out of it.
It’s
quite different now. Now there’s kind of a pervasive sense of hopeless,
or, I think, despair. I think it’s quite new in American history and it
has an objective basis. In the 1930s unemployed “working people” could
anticipate realistically that the jobs are going to come back. If you’re
a worker in manufacturing today -- and the unemployment level in
manufacturing today is approximately like the Depression -- if current
tendencies persist, then those jobs aren’t going to come back. The
change took place in the '70s. There are a lot of reasons for it. One of
the underlying reasons, discussed mainly by economic historian Robert
Bernard, who has done a lot of work on it, is a falling rate of profit.
That, with other factors, led to major changes in the economy -- a
reversal of the 700 years of progress towards industrialization and
development. We turned to a process of deindustrialization and
de-development. Of course, manufacturing production continued, but
overseas (it’s very profitable, but no good for the workforce). Along
with that came a significant shift of the economy from productive
enterprise, producing things people need, to financial manipulation.
Financialization of the economy really took off at that time.
Before
the '70s, banks were banks. They did what banks are supposed to do in a
capitalist economy: take unused funds, like, say, your bank account,
and transfer them to some potentially useful purpose, like buying a home
or sending your kid to college. There were no financial crises. It was a
period of enormous growth; the largest period of growth in American
history, or maybe in economic history. It was sustained growth in the
'50s and '60s and it was egalitarian. So the lowest percentile did as
well as the highest percentile. A lot of people moved into reasonable
lifestyles -- what’s called here “middle class” (working class is what
it’s called in other countries).
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